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congress, because of lobbyists have handcuffed medicare. medicare can't negotiate what it pays for any kind of drugs. it can't negotiate what it pays for wheelchairs, diabetes testing equipment. if congress took those handcuffs off of medicare you could get about half of the spending cuts that we're sitting around here talking about. >> is that true? >> you could get a fair amount. if they get the same prices for prescription drugs that medicare gets, it would save -- steven, i think your article was great. i don't believe that we can cut our way, change the pricing and still save medicare. the average person who's at medicare retirement age paid in some $122,000 in the system. they'll get back $370,000 back in benefits. we have to fundamental medicare reform. >> in the larger health care system, the government and all of us would actually save money if you lowered -- i said lowered the age for medicare. if the medicare age were 60 instead of 65, the economy and the taxpayers would actually save money and george, please don't look at me lik
congress, because of lobbyists have handcuffed medicare. medicare can't negotiate what it pays for any kind of drugs. it can't negotiate what it pays for wheelchairs, diabetes testing equipment. if congress took those handcuffs off of medicare you could get about half of the spending cuts that we're sitting around here talking about. >> is that true? >> you could get a fair amount. if they get the same prices for prescription drugs that medicare gets, it would save -- steven, i...
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be doing, you would be putting the most efficient player, which is medicare, medicare spends 80 to 90 cents to process a claim and the health insurance companies spend $25 to process a claim. health insurance companies pay two, three, four times what medicare pays through various services. if you lowered the age, you would put more people into the bucket of much more efficient health care. and the worst part about it is, the reforms that we have now, with the president's plan, are actually going to raise the costs because all of the people who are 60, 62, 63, who can't afford the premiums that they're going to have now, are going to be subsidized by the taxpayers. >> that becomes an argument for a single-payer system. >> here's an argument against that. 12 cents is the most important number. 12 cents is the portion of every health care dollar paid by the person receiving the health care. someone else is paying the rest. it was 47 cents 50 years ago when jack kennedy was president. now, let me ask the five of you a question, you go to doctor and they say i want to give you a following
be doing, you would be putting the most efficient player, which is medicare, medicare spends 80 to 90 cents to process a claim and the health insurance companies spend $25 to process a claim. health insurance companies pay two, three, four times what medicare pays through various services. if you lowered the age, you would put more people into the bucket of much more efficient health care. and the worst part about it is, the reforms that we have now, with the president's plan, are actually...
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they want to go after social security and medicare. that's their goal. but they don't want to say that's their goal. we would rather the democrats to sacrifice what are essentially the most popular government programs that democrats protected for years now. >> john: the only alternative is a sane tax code that doesn't treat people who make 400 millions dollars a year as those who make $10,000 a year. is the white house overstating overstatingties case a bit? >> the real fear that i have is not just the cuts that are going to hurt a lot of people. non-defense discretionary is where we have the programs for the poor, women children, i fear that degree of cutting when the economy is fragile is going to drain so much demand out of the economy that we're back in recession. i frankly don't think that republicans care about that. they don't care about high unemployment. they've shown them that they don't care about it. they don't want the government to spend anything to make up for the lack of consumer demand. they're wethey are wedded to their republican ortho
they want to go after social security and medicare. that's their goal. but they don't want to say that's their goal. we would rather the democrats to sacrifice what are essentially the most popular government programs that democrats protected for years now. >> john: the only alternative is a sane tax code that doesn't treat people who make 400 millions dollars a year as those who make $10,000 a year. is the white house overstating overstatingties case a bit? >> the real fear that i...
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like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see...
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we have a large group of people that you want to make citizens that are going to be on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps. you know it. >> again -- >> what's going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> you said build the dang fence. where's the dang fence? >> in case you missed it, i -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence? we've put up a banana with $6 million worth of appropriations we have. sir, you're entitled to your opinion. you're not entitled to your facts. >> i think it's a middle of the road decision. you can't come in the country without permission. that's the way countries are. it's the world we live in. they don't seem to want to approach it that way. >> i love the clip that you played, chris. first of all, if you listen to that crowd in the audience, that's savage nation, limbaugh, beck. this is 30 years of these guys being entertained by the complex on the right. >> do you think they're educated to those opinions? >> i think it plays into already a feeling of victimhood that the countr
we have a large group of people that you want to make citizens that are going to be on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps. you know it. >> again -- >> what's going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> you said build the dang fence. where's the dang fence? >> in case you missed it, i -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence? we've put up a banana with $6 million...
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and his extraordinary that, that people will say you can't touch medicare and you can't touch -- you can't have to do a tax increase to gain the i or of grover and his white robes. you don't have to do that. you go into the tax code and you say, guess what lex do you want a stimulus? everybody says what the hell do you think -- 1 trillion the? if that isn't a stimulus i missed the boat. that's what a seamless is come and we've done over a trillion bucks the last four years. so we say go into the tax code and start ripping around in it, really fun to do that. that will irritate everyone in u.s. there's 180 of those babies in the. they take have -- they take if everybody. spent 180 what? >> tax expenditures in the tax code. there's nothing but spending by any other name. that are loopholes, deductions, all the works. and guess what? only 20% of the american people use 80% of them. run that through your -- only 20% of the american people use 80% of them. only 27% of the american people itemize on their tax return, which means that three quarters of the americans have never heard of thos
and his extraordinary that, that people will say you can't touch medicare and you can't touch -- you can't have to do a tax increase to gain the i or of grover and his white robes. you don't have to do that. you go into the tax code and you say, guess what lex do you want a stimulus? everybody says what the hell do you think -- 1 trillion the? if that isn't a stimulus i missed the boat. that's what a seamless is come and we've done over a trillion bucks the last four years. so we say go into...
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we have large group of dependent people that, you want it make citizens, that will be on -- on medicare, they will be on welfare, they will need food stamps. you know it [ inaudible ] >> again, sir, you're not -- >> you say, build the dang fence. where's the fence? >> in case you missed it, i showed you that -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence? it's a banana. we put up a banana with about $600 million -- sir, you are entitled to your opinion and i'm entitled to the facts. >> there he is, joy, david, using words like banana, an old joke. i don't think irony works with this crowd. number two, the great pat hon han of the new york, you are entitled to your opinion and i have the facts. i don't think that works with this crowd. they feel they are overrun by immigrant. they don't like it. that's their point of view. they don't want it hear the quibbling about, we will let them stay here. they really seem to think, i wish there was someone out there that would talk like i talk. we got an immigrant problem. you want to talk about it? write it down. you want it work here, go through
we have large group of dependent people that, you want it make citizens, that will be on -- on medicare, they will be on welfare, they will need food stamps. you know it [ inaudible ] >> again, sir, you're not -- >> you say, build the dang fence. where's the fence? >> in case you missed it, i showed you that -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence? it's a banana. we put up a banana with about $600 million -- sir, you are entitled to your opinion and i'm...
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people stopped providing medicare to the recipients of medicare. that is politically active people over 65. they went directly to their representatives and, sure enough, you ended up with a doc fix, which i suspect is fixed only with a fiscal cliff. there is another explanation. it always does not have to be a small group of people controlling everything. which leads me to my next question before i get back to public financing. professor lessig's understanding of corruption is dependent on the phrase by james madison that any kind of motor or effort that is driven by anything other than the people along, and a general understanding of what the republic was in federalist 10. it talks about how complicated the problem of who the people are and what they do and how you have a system that is a stable and lasting republic. the concern, as you may recall is that medicine is concerned with factions. he is concerned with minority factions and majority factions. he is particularly concerned with majority factions and the effect they would have on the rights
people stopped providing medicare to the recipients of medicare. that is politically active people over 65. they went directly to their representatives and, sure enough, you ended up with a doc fix, which i suspect is fixed only with a fiscal cliff. there is another explanation. it always does not have to be a small group of people controlling everything. which leads me to my next question before i get back to public financing. professor lessig's understanding of corruption is dependent on the...
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he has been specific about dealing with medicare and some aspects of retirement, but has he been specific enough? i'm going to ask you about taxes in a minute, but from the president and the white house's perspective, as he put enough out there on the table to reel in the republicans and get them to negotiate seriously? >> well, i hope so. he's put some things on the table that his own troops didn't like, which is absolutely necessary. he had to do that to show that he was serious. one thing is the reform of the consumer price index, which is really a technical adjustment, but it would mean slightly lower social security benefits and other benefits going forward. now, you could offset that with other changes in the law, but it is the right thing to do. and his own troops were kind of unhappy about that, but he put it out there and he has certainly put medicare adjustments of various sorts on the table. the table that matters is the one that they will actually be negotiating around, and they've got to both get there and then cut a deal. >> what do you say to republicans who say we did reve
he has been specific about dealing with medicare and some aspects of retirement, but has he been specific enough? i'm going to ask you about taxes in a minute, but from the president and the white house's perspective, as he put enough out there on the table to reel in the republicans and get them to negotiate seriously? >> well, i hope so. he's put some things on the table that his own troops didn't like, which is absolutely necessary. he had to do that to show that he was serious. one...
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they slash medicare and investments that create good middle class jobs. and so far at least what we have expressed is a preference where they would rather have these cuts go into effect than
they slash medicare and investments that create good middle class jobs. and so far at least what we have expressed is a preference where they would rather have these cuts go into effect than
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they slash medicare and investments that create good middle class jobs. and so far at least what we have expressed is a preference where they would rather have these cuts go into effect than close a single tax loophole for the wealthiest americans. not one. that's not balanced. that would be like democrats saying we have to close our deficits without any spending cuts whatsoever. it's all taxes. that's not the position democrats have taken. that is certainly not the position i've taken. it's wrong to ask the middle class to bear the full burden of deficit reduction and that's why i on will not sign a plan that harms the middle class. so now republicans in congress face a simple choice. are they willing to compromise, to protect vital veminvestments education and national security and all of the jobs that depend on them or would they rather put hundreds of thousands of jobs and our entire economy at risk just to protect a few special interest tax loopholes that benefit only the wealthiest americans and biggest corporations? that is the choice. are you will
they slash medicare and investments that create good middle class jobs. and so far at least what we have expressed is a preference where they would rather have these cuts go into effect than close a single tax loophole for the wealthiest americans. not one. that's not balanced. that would be like democrats saying we have to close our deficits without any spending cuts whatsoever. it's all taxes. that's not the position democrats have taken. that is certainly not the position i've taken. it's...
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medicare and medicaid are actually going to cost us a lot less than we thought, $200 billion a year less starting around 2020, with some earlier reductions before that. and that would cover basically what we're looking at in sequester. it just shows you how small it is and how we need a much bigger deal. >> speaking of that, simpson-bowles, the infamous couple were out today and they were saying look, this is true, by the way, what we were saying was a heck of a lot bigger than what they're talking about now with the forced cuts and what we were saying is far short of what we need to do. but you know what i love about simpson? you know what, he calls b.s. here he is with politico's michael len. >> mr. bowles, you referred to them as dumb. >> stupid. yeah. >> three times you used that word. >> they are dumb and they are stupid, stupid, stupid. they're stupid because first of all -- they are inane. look, there's no business in the country that makes its cuts across the board. you go in there and try to cut those things that have the least adverse effect on productivity. second, they're cut
medicare and medicaid are actually going to cost us a lot less than we thought, $200 billion a year less starting around 2020, with some earlier reductions before that. and that would cover basically what we're looking at in sequester. it just shows you how small it is and how we need a much bigger deal. >> speaking of that, simpson-bowles, the infamous couple were out today and they were saying look, this is true, by the way, what we were saying was a heck of a lot bigger than what...
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our in impacts, we're living longer and we're hitting the medicare ages and medicare goes up because of the cost of diseases. prevention pays off but if you're not investing costs do go up and people are harmed. >> i'm going to piggyback on what you said about the concept of investment. i'm scratching my head when i think about how we're contemplating cutting money in education instead of investing in education. thinking about the indications and the human collateral that will be impacted by the decision or lack of a decision. what is going to happen to my students when they lose these services? when they lose the educational services that they have a right to? what is going to happen when they try to continually try to catch up and close the achievement gap because they don't have headstart or these other services that provide for the students and families. what would happen to my students when they reach the point of frustration because they are always trying to play catch-up, where are they going to end up? the sequester to me is nonsensical. are we going to think about taking mon
our in impacts, we're living longer and we're hitting the medicare ages and medicare goes up because of the cost of diseases. prevention pays off but if you're not investing costs do go up and people are harmed. >> i'm going to piggyback on what you said about the concept of investment. i'm scratching my head when i think about how we're contemplating cutting money in education instead of investing in education. thinking about the indications and the human collateral that will be impacted...
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they are going to be on medicare, welfare, get food stamps. >> you know, again -- again. >> what is going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. they -- they mow our lawns, and care for our babies. they clean o-- they -- the work that those people do, you're wrong again. >> you are saying build the darn fence, where is the fence? >> in case you missed it, that is a fence, we put up a banana with about $600 million worth of appropriations we have. sir, you're entitled to your opinion, you're not entitled to your facts. >> you say banana, i say fence, the old john mccain was on display yesterday. the one who was not afraid to say what people didn't want to hear. >> obviously, they're not here to assimilate, into our society, they're here doing the things they need to do to make their life better at home, now, the question -- >> sir, some have been here as long as 40 years. they are serving in our military. >> as senator john mccain was leaving the event, he tried to downplay his audience's negative reaction to immigration reform. >> somewhere around 70-som
they are going to be on medicare, welfare, get food stamps. >> you know, again -- again. >> what is going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. they -- they mow our lawns, and care for our babies. they clean o-- they -- the work that those people do, you're wrong again. >> you are saying build the darn fence, where is the fence? >> in case you missed it, that is a fence, we put up a banana with about $600 million worth of...
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but medicare, if there's a hero to this piece, it's medicare, and the bureaucrat there is looking at costs, trying to keep down costs, and that is good for most americans. one of the things steve advocates and counterintuitively, if you lowered the age of medicare eligibility, not raising it. i would argue if you made medicare to buy in for people under 65, that would improve the health system. >> why medical bills are us. rick stengel, this is a really good issue. rge tha >> thank you. i have something about the pensacola hospitals that i'm going to show you. you can read it off my iphone. >> fantastic. i love it. >> coming up here on set, oscar-nominated don cheadle will be here. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the next wave of italians has come to america, and the fiat 500 with beats audio is rockin' the block. the italian designed fiat 500. but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like helping hr departments manage benefits and pensions for over 11 million employees. reducing document
but medicare, if there's a hero to this piece, it's medicare, and the bureaucrat there is looking at costs, trying to keep down costs, and that is good for most americans. one of the things steve advocates and counterintuitively, if you lowered the age of medicare eligibility, not raising it. i would argue if you made medicare to buy in for people under 65, that would improve the health system. >> why medical bills are us. rick stengel, this is a really good issue. rge tha >> thank...
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medicare is in the process of cracking down on fraud. the program is especially concerned about paying for devices that are prescribed to people who don't need them. medicare is trying harder than ever to stop medical equipment suppliers from abusing the system and they're sort of putting out some red flags to patients and sometimes these aren't necessarily fraudulent against the patients. it's more fraudulent against the government. some telltale signs offering a free scooter or wheelchair, offering to waive copayments or billing medicare for equipment the patient never gets or after it's returned. carol? >> alison kosik reporting live from the new york stock exchange. >>> a tu ba player at lsu really, really stood out in the student band. now he's a standout on the, can you spot who the basketball player it? we'll be right back. it's chevy truck month! silverado was also recognized for the lowest cost of ownership. hey, what are you gonna do with it? end table. oh. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now get 0% financing for 60
medicare is in the process of cracking down on fraud. the program is especially concerned about paying for devices that are prescribed to people who don't need them. medicare is trying harder than ever to stop medical equipment suppliers from abusing the system and they're sort of putting out some red flags to patients and sometimes these aren't necessarily fraudulent against the patients. it's more fraudulent against the government. some telltale signs offering a free scooter or wheelchair,...
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. >> they are going to be on medicare, they are going to be on we will tear, going to be on -- on welfare, food stamps, and what's going to happen is -- you know, i'm going to -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> why bring a 30 million people into the united states -- cut off their welfare, and their stuff, and then they'll go back. >> lots of echoes here of previous elections. >> but you know, some people say, oh, look at that, that's what town halls are supposed to be about. that's why they are always packed, as you noticed. i've had town hall meetings for 30 years and sometimes they become very spirited. i enjoy them. we don't screen anybody who comes to our town hall meeting s and it gives the people of arizona a chance. now, didn't believe that that person was correct with his facts so i fired back at him and people said you good, that's what we want to hear this is the debate we want to hear. so, i'm proud of that if anybody doesn't like it then down the have to come to the town hall meet egg. -- meeting. >> what does it tell you about the base of the repu
. >> they are going to be on medicare, they are going to be on we will tear, going to be on -- on welfare, food stamps, and what's going to happen is -- you know, i'm going to -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> why bring a 30 million people into the united states -- cut off their welfare, and their stuff, and then they'll go back. >> lots of echoes here of previous elections. >> but you know, some people say, oh, look at that, that's...
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. >> they're going to be on medicare. they're employigoing to be on w food stamps. >> again -- >> you know it. what's going to happen -- >> again, sir, you're not telling us the truth. >> why bring a 30 million people into the united states, cut off their welfare and all their stuff and they'll go back. >> so, lots of echoes here of previous elections. >> yeah, but you know, people -- some people say, oh, look at that. that's what town halls are supposed to be about. that's why they're always packed, as you notice. i've had town hall meetings for 30 years and sometimes they become very spirited. i enjoy them. we don't screen anybody who comes to our taown hall meeting and it gives the people a chance. i didn't believe that person was correct with his facts so i fired back at him. people said, good, that's what we want to hear. it's a debate. i'm proud of that. if anybody doesn't like it, you don't have to come to the town hall meeting. >> what does it tell you about the base of the republican party? does it tell you you h
. >> they're going to be on medicare. they're employigoing to be on w food stamps. >> again -- >> you know it. what's going to happen -- >> again, sir, you're not telling us the truth. >> why bring a 30 million people into the united states, cut off their welfare and all their stuff and they'll go back. >> so, lots of echoes here of previous elections. >> yeah, but you know, people -- some people say, oh, look at that. that's what town halls are...
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called for cutting spending, lowering taxes, repealing obama's health law, even a partl privatizion medicare. >> a manifesto that would return the country to eisenhower-era levels of government spending. there would be no more room for any discretionary program, other than defense, if this whole thing were phased in. i mean, it's an incredibly austere document. >> republicans got themselves hitched this afternoon to the paul ryan budget... >> a sweeping budget proposal from congressman paul ryan... >> narrator: at the white house, the president saw ryan's budget as a direct assault. >> ...budget plan want to trim $6 trillion... >> narrator: he decided to counterattack. >> president obama will deliver a speech on fiscal policy... >> they had this idea, that they'd give this speech, a powerful full-throated defense of his view of the fiscal situation. >> president obama will share his plans in a speech at george washington university... >> narrator: the president wanted the speech to take on ryan's budget. >> the decision was made that we had to frame this in a very aggressive way about what w
called for cutting spending, lowering taxes, repealing obama's health law, even a partl privatizion medicare. >> a manifesto that would return the country to eisenhower-era levels of government spending. there would be no more room for any discretionary program, other than defense, if this whole thing were phased in. i mean, it's an incredibly austere document. >> republicans got themselves hitched this afternoon to the paul ryan budget... >> a sweeping budget proposal from...
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people that are going to -- you want to make citizens that are going to be on -- they're going to be on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps. >> well, again -- >> and you know it. what's going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. they mow our lawns, they care for our babies. >> you're a senator with the federal government and you're doing nothing about it. you said build a dang fence. where's the fence? >> in case you missed it, i showed you -- >> that's not a fence. >> it's not a fence? it's a banana. we're putting up a banana with about $600 million worth of appropriations. sir, you can -- you're entitled to your opinion. you're not entitled to your facts. the facts are that we have made significant improvements. >> you're stealing from everybody in this audience right here. you're taking away from their social security to give it to a dependent class of people. >> this is an orwellian experience. i've had enough. you've had enough. >> to refresh your memory on this dang fence talk. this is what he said in an ad when
people that are going to -- you want to make citizens that are going to be on -- they're going to be on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps. >> well, again -- >> and you know it. what's going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. they mow our lawns, they care for our babies. >> you're a senator with the federal government and you're doing nothing about it. you said build a dang fence. where's...
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large group of dependent people that are going -- you want to make citizens that are going to be on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps. >> again -- >> and you know it. what's going to happen -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> you said build the dang fence. where is the fence? >> in case you missed it, i showed you -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence? it's a banana. we put up a banana with $600 million worth of appropriations we have. sir, you're entitled to your opinion, you're not entitled to your facts. >> well, there he is, joy, and david using words like bananas, an old joke. i don't think irony work was this crowd. number two, quoting the great pat moynihan of new york, you can tout your own opinion, not your facts. it doesn't work. they have a gut attitude that we're being overrun by illegal immigrants that are changing the culture of the south, they don't like it and they don't want to hear this quibbling about we're going to let them say here and all this. they really seem to think -- i wish there was
large group of dependent people that are going -- you want to make citizens that are going to be on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps. >> again -- >> and you know it. what's going to happen -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> you said build the dang fence. where is the fence? >> in case you missed it, i showed you -- >> that's not a fence. >> that's not a fence? it's a banana. we put...
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he has offered to, to close the gap in medicare and medicaid. they have offered to close the tax loopholes which republicans don't seem to want to do. again boehner is pointing fingers and calling the president names. what is the solution has? what is boehner's solution? bill: i tell you what you do. go back to november of 2011. bear in mind what bob woodward told chris wallace on sunday morning. this was the president's idea. he approached harry reid with the idea. >> and they agreed to it. bill: house spub republicans voted twice to avoid and eventually capitulated. a lot of fingerprints. hang on alan. >> they vote the two to one for this. bill: in one second. in the end you're right about that. this is november of 2011 when the president suggested that any effort to veto or any effort to continue with these cuts would ultimately be vetoed by him. not my words, his. roll this. >> already some in congress are trying to undo these automatic spending cuts. my message to them is simple. no. i will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spen
he has offered to, to close the gap in medicare and medicaid. they have offered to close the tax loopholes which republicans don't seem to want to do. again boehner is pointing fingers and calling the president names. what is the solution has? what is boehner's solution? bill: i tell you what you do. go back to november of 2011. bear in mind what bob woodward told chris wallace on sunday morning. this was the president's idea. he approached harry reid with the idea. >> and they agreed to...
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. >> the cuts to medicare and social security have to stop. we want the corporations to pay their fair tax share. stop cutting jobs. pay your fair taxes. do not cut from here. [indiscernible] >> i agree very -- agree. >> 12.3 million americans -- >> they will address your point. [indiscernible] >> we need good jobs now. we need good jobs now. pay your taxes. we need good jobs now. pay your taxes. we need good jobs now. >> go ahead and address his point. >> if you look at the plan we are putting forward we call for broadening the base and simplifying the code in an aggressive manner. if you look at where the tax expenditures are paid, they are generally paid by people in the upper income brackets so in a progressive manner they will increase. >> that is not true. we have major corporations, and you are part of that, not paying their fair share. >> we need good jobs now. we need good jobs now. [indiscernible] >> we are really serious about this. >> so am i. >> all right. the second point i would make is if you look at what we are doing with soci
. >> the cuts to medicare and social security have to stop. we want the corporations to pay their fair tax share. stop cutting jobs. pay your fair taxes. do not cut from here. [indiscernible] >> i agree very -- agree. >> 12.3 million americans -- >> they will address your point. [indiscernible] >> we need good jobs now. we need good jobs now. pay your taxes. we need good jobs now. pay your taxes. we need good jobs now. >> go ahead and address his point....